pack colors, the 3.1 rule question
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My 2 cents - bear with me, I didn't read everything yet, but I wanted to address a few points.

A LOT of how the current mybb code works is custom plugin code built by me.  So suggestions like a different color for light and dark mode are wonderful and definitely doable!  I really appreciate people putting forth ideas that they like better, ones that fit the goal and still offer more freedom of choice <3

Suggestions are always welcome.  We love hearing members' ideas on how to make things better.  But where the line comes into play is comments assuming that changes we want to make are to the detriment of members (they aren't) or are being put into place in a bad spirit.  

If packs don't choose a new color, then yes, the CM team may choose one for you that is close to a current color.  No, the PMs will not be banned.  That would be ridiculous (sorry) and is not at all the spirit that this rule is being put into place for.  Bans are a result of discourtesy, treating other members poorly, and in general being a bad fit for the site.  We don't ban PMs for not adjusting ranks, not keeping up with posts, etc.  Why would we ever penalize over this?

There's feedback and then there's constructive feedback.  A lot of the feedback here has been constructive, and you are lovely, I appreciate it.  But at the end of the day, the site's code and management are on us, as is the site's appearance and presentation.  We don't mind suggestions, but what I personally (and I think the other CMs) take issue with is the insinuation that we are wrong in not asking members before putting this change into effect.  It is one of very few instances where this isn't necessary, and falls directly in line with the change made previously to remove html tables from posts.  We didn't take opinions then (which caused a lot of lashback as well) but has resulted in a FAR better reading experience across the board.

Sorry, I'm trying to work while following, so this is a bit piecemeal.  I just wanted to be sure to state that this thread and most of the discussion is appreciated.  There's just... a few things to remember when engaging with the site and changes we put into effect.
  • CMs have the right to enact changes we feel are for the good of membership and staff.
  • Members can (and should!) suggest ways those changes can be improved on, or reasons why they think those changes are a mistake
  • Members do not have the right to be informed of changes before they happen.
  • Members do not have the right to be a deciding factor on site policy.  We try our best to take member opinion into account in all things where needed, but sometimes, we need to change something for our own sake (running the site) or to meet compliance standards.
Messages In This Thread
pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Cyprin - August 23, 2020, 12:03 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Caerus - August 23, 2020, 12:33 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by RIP Praimfaya - August 23, 2020, 12:48 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Caerus - August 23, 2020, 12:49 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Renard - August 23, 2020, 01:04 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Ketzia - August 23, 2020, 01:08 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sialuk - August 23, 2020, 01:42 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Caerus - August 23, 2020, 01:56 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Ibis (Ghost) - August 23, 2020, 02:50 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Renard - August 23, 2020, 01:57 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Caerus - August 23, 2020, 01:59 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sialuk - August 23, 2020, 02:04 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Wylla - August 23, 2020, 02:10 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sialuk - August 23, 2020, 02:13 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Cyprin - August 23, 2020, 02:21 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Y2K9 - August 23, 2020, 02:54 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Maiira - August 23, 2020, 02:56 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Ibis (Ghost) - August 23, 2020, 03:03 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Lilitu - August 23, 2020, 02:56 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Cyprin - August 23, 2020, 02:57 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Lilitu - August 23, 2020, 02:57 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Orochi - August 23, 2020, 03:09 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Arcturus - August 23, 2020, 04:35 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Lilitu - August 23, 2020, 05:08 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sialuk - August 24, 2020, 07:47 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Lilitu - August 24, 2020, 08:38 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Akavir - August 24, 2020, 09:16 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Lilitu - August 24, 2020, 09:29 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Akavir - August 24, 2020, 09:32 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Lilitu - August 24, 2020, 09:34 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Akavir - August 24, 2020, 09:35 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Wylla - August 24, 2020, 09:38 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Akavir - August 24, 2020, 09:45 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Lilitu - August 24, 2020, 09:56 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Huā - August 24, 2020, 09:53 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sadhbh - August 24, 2020, 11:02 AM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Finley Grebe - August 24, 2020, 12:25 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Lilitu - August 24, 2020, 12:33 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Caerus - August 24, 2020, 12:35 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Y2K9 - August 24, 2020, 12:40 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Cyprin - August 24, 2020, 12:42 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Arcturus - August 24, 2020, 01:45 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sadhbh - August 24, 2020, 01:46 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Derg - August 24, 2020, 02:01 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sialuk - August 24, 2020, 02:06 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Ibis (Ghost) - August 24, 2020, 02:27 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sadhbh - August 24, 2020, 02:08 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Arcturus - August 24, 2020, 03:56 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sadhbh - August 24, 2020, 02:22 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Atlas - August 24, 2020, 02:26 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Ketzia - August 24, 2020, 02:42 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Caerus - August 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Rosalyn - August 24, 2020, 02:56 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Cyprin - August 24, 2020, 02:58 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Rosalyn - August 24, 2020, 03:08 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Sadhbh - August 24, 2020, 04:00 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Renard - August 24, 2020, 03:16 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Derg - August 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Lilitu - August 24, 2020, 04:45 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Finley Grebe - August 24, 2020, 04:47 PM
RE: pack colors, the 3.1 rule question - by Arcturus - August 24, 2020, 05:36 PM